b'ematical structure, but I dont always see it. It islies the art. And I said, That is not what I want like cracking a code. If you see it, and once youto do. I want to say it all! He thought that was see it, there is a truth. It is magic, but you haveridiculous.Hesaid,Thatisnotart.You to see it. In a certain light, the crown of build- should be doing art, not illustration.ings turns purple, really purple. My last water-color study is green, orange, and purplecom- NMO: Is this man an artist himself? plementarycolors.Thecolorsarethere,just there. You dont have to make it up. JKR: I think so. He showed me some of his work on his camera and he is confident that NMO: Have there been other places that youthis is how it should be donebroad brush-have sketched as much as the Sheep Meadow? strokes,withoutdetails.Iunderstandthat.I have done that in my life as well. JKR: I did many of the General Sherman stat-ueattheentrancetoCentralParkand,ofNMO: Do other people come and talk to you?course,thedancersaroundtheShakespeare statue at Literary Walk.JKR: Yes, from the bums to the well-to-do. They all love the park and respect it. The park NMO: Tell me about the stranger who regu- is really wonderful. It is a mecca for New York. larly walked by as you were painting and criti-cized your work. Nadine M. Orenstein is Curator in the Department of Drawings and Prints at the Metropolitan Museum JKR: He was very art-savvy. The first time heof Art in New York. She received her Ph.D. from the cameby,hetoldmethatIwasdoingitallInstitute of Fine Arts in 1992. She has written and wrong, including the perspective. He helpedlectured extensively on Northern European drawings me enormously, and I was grateful for his inputand prints. Her exhibitions at the Metropolitan Mu-that clarified for me some problems with theseum include Pieter Bruegel the Elder: Drawings composition. His view was that I should bringand Prints (2001), Hendrick Goltzius (1558acanvasandsetitagainstatreeandswish,1617): Prints, Drawings and Paintings (2003), swish, swish with broad brushstrokes. Forgetand most recently, Infinite Jest: Caricature and thedetailsandsearchforthetruththereinSatire from Leonardo to Levine (2011).'